Playtest ( CLOSED )

Discussion in 'Play-Tests' started by ultra_herickvvb, Oct 18, 2015.

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  1. I'm doing a playtest using hamachi
    Rooms hamachi:
    TSOBRASIL
    TSOBRASIL2
    TSOBRASIL3
    P.S: every room has the same password that is 123
    server ip: 25.104.159.74
    dist 154
  2. -BloodFighter-

    -BloodFighter- Active Member

    would be good if you would be actually portforwarding the ports instead of making people to download Hamachi.
  3. playtest closed
  4. Clonest

    Clonest Active Member

    Hmmm lemme think, between downloading a simple program that does everything for you or editing and possibly compromising my internet IP settings to point of being completely broken for good? I THINK I'LL STICK TO THE TINY HAMACHI DOWNLOAD TYVM! seriously it's hardly any bigger then downloading the TSO client. What's the deal with people being so against port-forwarding programs? >.<
  5. LetsRaceBwoi

    LetsRaceBwoi Well-Known Member

    Um, what? Hamachi, Evolve, etc are just as unsafe. In fact, they are even more unsafe because every port is accessible, not just the ones you choose.
  6. Marvin732

    Marvin732 Active Member

    "What's the deal with people being so against port-forwarding programs?"
    Modems like Technicolor TC 7200 doesnt support Port Forwarding because stupid DS-Lite
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  7. RHY3756547

    RHY3756547 FreeSO Developer Staff Member Moderator

    Port forwarding is not easy, but I wouldn't really advise lazing out completely and using extraneous software that users need to install to connect to your server. It's not really a good experience for anyone, especially since evolve spams desktop adverts for no good reason.
  8. LetsRaceBwoi

    LetsRaceBwoi Well-Known Member

    Yeah, like when I finish a game for instance, and I'm listening to music, it fucking plays a fairy ad or some shit over it. Multiple users have complained about it but to no avail.
  9. Clonest

    Clonest Active Member

    Last i checked Hamachi has absolutely no ads and is has private has it gets, ignorant as ever. Stop hating and find one that works, not everyone feels like toying with a bunch of port numbers just to have it work for the majority, certainly not me. These programs are THE ONLY luck i've ever had when hosting a server for any given game.
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  10. pisarz1958

    pisarz1958 Administrator Staff Member Moderator

    I kinda understand him because having a virtual network adapter for Hamachi, Evolve, Tunngle, VirtualBox and tons of other stuff is kinda annoying (and every one comes with its own driver and client software, obviously). It reminds me of a time my friend got random BSODs almost every day and it was a bug in Hamachi driver. Because, well, drivers can mess with the OS, right?
  11. Marvin732

    Marvin732 Active Member

    Does it work with Hamachi?
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  12. Clonest

    Clonest Active Member

    Well if you know enough about how the networking options work on Windows, you can easily turn off the adapter for all the other programs and leave just one on by going to "view network connections", that way there is no IP/port conflicts messing with each other! :)
  13. pisarz1958

    pisarz1958 Administrator Staff Member Moderator

    And if you know enough about how to operate your router you could just simply go to your router's panel, enter your local IP, enter FreeSO's port and it would just work without messing with your OS. :p See, it leads to nowhere. Port forwarding is all about letting your router know that this specific PC is the one that hosts the service (in this case, FSO server). And no, you don't need to install any weird thing LRB is suggesting.

    It won't leave you without internet connection if you do something wrong, it won't compromise your security (it's not like a THIRD PARTY FAKE LAN DRIVER that connects your computer to a virtual LAN network), it will be easier for everyone to connect to your server (does Hamachi still have 10 peers per room limit?), there is no way you would share more than you want to and if you ever got BSOD, you have one third-party driver less to worry about.

    Just sayin', we could just spend another month or two on this Hamachi vs port forwarding debate and won't get to any meaningful conclusions. You could now say that Hamachi kind of stuff is easier to setup, sometimes you can't do port-forwarding because you can't access your routers panel etc. and - yes, sure. And Tunngle is also designed in a way that enables you to have a game lobby, with chat, games list etc. And yes, you could even integrate FreeSO and Tunngle on the code level to provide some of this in game itself.

    But I still think people actually don't like installing things just to play online on a server for... let's say, less than hour. When I see that something requires this kind of software, I'm like - okay, too lazy to do that, whatever. I've never had Hamachi installed for more than few hours and setting it up always felt like a waste of time.
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2015
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  14. Tirea

    Tirea Active Member

    Well, along with all its limitations, Hamachi is actually quite terrible when it comes to things like security/privacy protection... but then again people are using Google to search for stuff and then rage about how their data is collected, that their free internet services like WhatsApp, Kik or their android phones are used to collect data, which is then sold to third parties, etc. (most of them even rage about those privacy issues on Facebook.... I just really hate humanity sometimes <.< )Everyone should know what they are doing, if some value their private data to be this unimportant than fine.

    To get back to the topic, Hamachi is an easy to use program - yes! And like pisarz said, for some it's easier to just install Hamachi than to do anything on their router, but think about the security flaws those programs have. If you're comfortable with that, fine use 'em. If not, don't connect to a FSO server that is hosted with hamachi or some other program.
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